PHILADELPHIA — Lung cancer that develops in smokers is not the same disease as lung cancer that develops in people who’ve never touched a cigarette, a new study finds.

There are nearly twice as many DNA changes in the tumors of people who have never smoked than in the tumors of people who smoke, which suggests the cancer of “never-smokers” is different from smokers’ cancer, said Kelsie Thu, a Ph.D. candidate at the BC Cancer Research Center in Canada.

“We think this finding provides evidence that never-smoker and smoker lung cancers are different, and suggests they arise through different molecular pathways,” Thu told MyHealthNewsDaily. “Never-smokers might be exposed to a carcinogen, not from cigarettes, that causes their tumors to have more DNA alterations and promotes lung cancer development.”

http://www.livescience.com/11090-lung-cancer-disease-smokers-nonsmokers.html

Oh ya Ive read it plenty of times,what it proves is you dont find the same claimed cancers in smokers as in non-smokers and it proves that shs/ets doesnt cause cancer in non-smokers. Nor does it prove the end points in purported smoking related cancer! Now if you accept epidemiology as proof which I dont. The above findings would prove that the low relative risk factors in second hand smoke studies were correct that second hand smoke will not correlate to it causing cancer at all. Which is whats been known for a long long time by those who dont have an advocacy job to do. In order to prove something you have to connect the end points to complete the cycle of disease causation. In fact in nearly 80 years of research they have no more proof that smoking causes anything in anyone than they had back in 1920.

In order for smoking related cancers to be accurate we would expect to see a 100% causation from smoking in relationship to purported cancers,But this is not the case. When we find that 94% of life long smokers never develop any cancers at all. This leaves genetic flukes as the likely pathway in certain individuals. Did something in the smoke cause it or something else these smokers were also around like on the job or high radon conditions within their own home. Thats where it is,they dont know one way or the other. In the end it may be found that certain individuals are just prone to these types of cancers genetically. But the overwhelming majority of cancers is in folks over 70 in fact its a disease of the old especially at a time when age has taken a toll on the immune system but still doesnt explain why the oldest lived people were all smokers!

Just don’t forget, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS, EXCEPT WHAT WE CHOOSE TO GIVE YOU.

The medical profession are using passive smoking as a cause of a whole range of diseases that they are unwilling or unable to identify the cause of. The truth is many of these diseases are genetically related because we have not been allowing evolution to take its natural path.

I wonder how many dead bodys they will find when all those people in California breathes all that smoke from those nasty fires??

It’s not in your homes because of the materials it’s built from.
It’s not in your own Kitchen because of cleaning products.
It’s not in your yard because of the insecticides you spray.
It’s not in your car because of the materials used in the upholstery and the fumes that come into your car while driving.
It won’t be anywhere outside because of the pollution due to gas/diesel engines.
Look up Burning Issues and see the chart. Be sure to notice the least harmful item on the list. http://www.burningissues.org/comp-emmis-part-sources.htm
Ignore the fact that the EPA Report was vacated as fraudulent.
Ignore over 150+ studies that show no harm from SHS.
They don’t tell us that living close to major traffic hi-ways or large Urban areas increase the incidence of Cancer or Heart Disease by 50% or more.
Ignore the businesses going broke across the Country because of Bans.
What we do have, are agencies using misinformation to control others for profit not health.

TFK is just another so-called Non-Profit to throw money into. I always thought Non-Profits were supposed to stay out of advocacy in politics or loose their Non-Profit status. It’s an easy way to keep a six figure income for those who can’t hold a real job. The same goes for the other Non-Profits like the ACS, ALA etc.

Just because the government is trying help doesn’t mean that it must be wrong and we are heading towards a nanny state. And quite frankly when you need to be sucking on something all day to keep you happy, perhaps a nanny state is exactly appropriate for you.

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Do you smoke-haters force others to breath in your noxious, carcinogenic perfumes,after-shave and deodrants, in the so called clean air experiment?

Not that I would want them banned!

http://www.ourlittleplace.com/chemicals.html
3. BENZYL ACETATE (in: perfume, cologne, shampoo, fabric softener, stickup air freshener, dishwashing liquid and detergent, soap, hairspray, bleach, after shave, deodorants)
Carcinogenic (linked to pancreatic cancer); “From vapors: irritating to eyes and respiratory passages, exciting cough.” “In mice: hyperanemia of the lungs.” “Can be absorbed through the skin causing systemic effects.” “Do not flush to sewer.”

freedom2choose.info for tolerant non-smokers and smokers alike, please come and join us.

forces.org for those who have not been brainwashed and still have open minds

I have to ask:

Since tobacco is in the same FOOD group as broccoli, tomato, potato, green pepper and other foods, ALL containing nicotine, do you have any insight as to when those foods will also be put on the ban list and also outlawed 25 feet from any door? I gather many restaurants had best get prepared.