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		<title>By: Herd Rebel</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-374493</link>
		<dc:creator>Herd Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, TYR, given that we know "efficacy of influenza vacc in any age, gender, race, etc... category is completely a faux pas -" you will kindly excuse me while I yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn...... at the "HIV infected persons" study - in addition - can you please tell me what "saline" does as a "placebo"? 
Also - the studies you are referencing - as being "legitimate" from the "pubmed" - can you please tell me if these studies are part of the 80% studies that are ghost-written - or are they from the 20% that is not (JAMA)? Can you also then tell me where you found the information to verify whether what you were reading was legitimate or not so I can bookmark it? Personally, I stopped wasting my time reading the studies because I couldn't verify where one study fell from another, but, if you have a secret source that knows, I'd be happy to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, TYR, given that we know &#8220;efficacy of influenza vacc in any age, gender, race, etc&#8230; category is completely a faux pas -&#8221; you will kindly excuse me while I yawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn&#8230;&#8230; at the &#8220;HIV infected persons&#8221; study - in addition - can you please tell me what &#8220;saline&#8221; does as a &#8220;placebo&#8221;?<br />
Also - the studies you are referencing - as being &#8220;legitimate&#8221; from the &#8220;pubmed&#8221; - can you please tell me if these studies are part of the 80% studies that are ghost-written - or are they from the 20% that is not (JAMA)? Can you also then tell me where you found the information to verify whether what you were reading was legitimate or not so I can bookmark it? Personally, I stopped wasting my time reading the studies because I couldn&#8217;t verify where one study fell from another, but, if you have a secret source that knows, I&#8217;d be happy to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyr</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-370847</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tia said  "Still no sign of a double-blind, placebo study for vaccines…..EVER." and that was just one of many deceptions that the anti-vac crowd tries to pull.  Just an example of TWO trials off the top of my head are:

“Efficacy of Influenza Vaccination in HIV-Infected Persons” (randomized double-blind trial comparing influenza vaccine to saline placebo): you have to type the http and the www to make it work .annals.org/cgi/content/full/131/6/430

“Adverse Reactions to Influenza Vaccine in Elderly People: Randomised Double Blind Placebo Controlled Trial” (comparing influenza vaccine to saline placebo): you have to type the http and the www to make it work  .pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&#38;pubmedid=8241913</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tia said  &#8220;Still no sign of a double-blind, placebo study for vaccines…..EVER.&#8221; and that was just one of many deceptions that the anti-vac crowd tries to pull.  Just an example of TWO trials off the top of my head are:</p>
<p>“Efficacy of Influenza Vaccination in HIV-Infected Persons” (randomized double-blind trial comparing influenza vaccine to saline placebo): you have to type the http and the www to make it work .annals.org/cgi/content/full/131/6/430</p>
<p>“Adverse Reactions to Influenza Vaccine in Elderly People: Randomised Double Blind Placebo Controlled Trial” (comparing influenza vaccine to saline placebo): you have to type the http and the www to make it work  .pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&amp;pubmedid=8241913</p>
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		<title>By: Herd Rebel</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-366384</link>
		<dc:creator>Herd Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ: This is very true - here in the US the fear campaign has worked wonders in many areas to erode the country's foundation. If people understood what rights they actually had under a republic, they'd be damning the day "democracy" became intertwined then took over.  But you are very correct - the people allowed this to happen, but, that's another story.
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The bigger picture is that our rights and freedoms are being continously encroached and its becoming exceedingly difficult to getting them ‘ respected’ Why? Because Governments and the powers that be hold a re-defined premise as to the true meaning of a Republic and its role to provide protection of their citizens rights and freedoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ: This is very true - here in the US the fear campaign has worked wonders in many areas to erode the country&#8217;s foundation. If people understood what rights they actually had under a republic, they&#8217;d be damning the day &#8220;democracy&#8221; became intertwined then took over.  But you are very correct - the people allowed this to happen, but, that&#8217;s another story.<br />
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<p>The bigger picture is that our rights and freedoms are being continously encroached and its becoming exceedingly difficult to getting them ‘ respected’ Why? Because Governments and the powers that be hold a re-defined premise as to the true meaning of a Republic and its role to provide protection of their citizens rights and freedoms.</p>
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		<title>By: Herd Rebel</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-366380</link>
		<dc:creator>Herd Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Blogger.  I can see from your posts that you're copying and pasting from a report of some sort with footnotes.  Can you please provide the original link.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Blogger.  I can see from your posts that you&#8217;re copying and pasting from a report of some sort with footnotes.  Can you please provide the original link.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: BloggerT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BloggerT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And lastly this:   A sixteenth-century Swiss chemist named Paracelsus gave us the most basic rule of toxicology: "The dose makes the poison." Practically every substance on earth (including water and Vitamin C) can kill you if it's concentrated enough in your stomach or your bloodstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And lastly this:   A sixteenth-century Swiss chemist named Paracelsus gave us the most basic rule of toxicology: &#8220;The dose makes the poison.&#8221; Practically every substance on earth (including water and Vitamin C) can kill you if it&#8217;s concentrated enough in your stomach or your bloodstream.</p>
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		<title>By: BloggerT</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the number of cases of measles and reported deaths from measles for the years 1960-69 in the USA. 51

Year
 Cases
 Deaths
 
1960
 441,703
 380
 
1961
 423,919
 434
 
1962
 481,530
 408
 
1963
 385,156
 364
 
1964
 458,083
 421
 
1965
 261,904
 276
 
1966
 204,136
 261
 
1967
 62,705
 81
 
1968
 22,231
 24
 
1969
 25,826
 41
 
Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of epidemiology would look at these figures and hypothesize that something occurred around about 1963-64 that resulted in a marked decline in the number of cases and deaths from measles.

What happened at this time? Measles immunisation was introduced in the USA in 1963-64.  A time when "sanitary" conditions were firmly in place in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the number of cases of measles and reported deaths from measles for the years 1960-69 in the USA. 51</p>
<p>Year<br />
 Cases<br />
 Deaths</p>
<p>1960<br />
 441,703<br />
 380</p>
<p>1961<br />
 423,919<br />
 434</p>
<p>1962<br />
 481,530<br />
 408</p>
<p>1963<br />
 385,156<br />
 364</p>
<p>1964<br />
 458,083<br />
 421</p>
<p>1965<br />
 261,904<br />
 276</p>
<p>1966<br />
 204,136<br />
 261</p>
<p>1967<br />
 62,705<br />
 81</p>
<p>1968<br />
 22,231<br />
 24</p>
<p>1969<br />
 25,826<br />
 41</p>
<p>Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of epidemiology would look at these figures and hypothesize that something occurred around about 1963-64 that resulted in a marked decline in the number of cases and deaths from measles.</p>
<p>What happened at this time? Measles immunisation was introduced in the USA in 1963-64.  A time when &#8220;sanitary&#8221; conditions were firmly in place in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: BloggerT</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-365338</link>
		<dc:creator>BloggerT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the NY Time Aug 24 2008:

There has been an upsurge of measles cases in the United States, mostly because of parents’ misguided fears of vaccinations. The number is still relatively small — but climbing. In the first seven months of this year, 131 cases were reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than during the same period in any year since 1996. No deaths were reported, but at least 15 patients were hospitalized.

Most people have forgotten, but measles was once an uncontrolled scourge that infected three million to four million Americans annually. Victims typically suffered a rash, fever and diarrhea, but severe cases could lead to pneumonia or encephalitis. In bad epidemic years, some 48,000 Americans were hospitalized, 1,000 more were chronically disabled, and 400 to 500 died. 

Then the development of effective vaccines and compulsory vaccination of schoolchildren drove the disease to the sidelines. Health authorities declared that measles had been eliminated from the United States in 2000. Only a few score cases have been reported annually in recent years, mostly imported from abroad.

Nearly all of the outbreaks this year were triggered by a mere 17 travelers or foreign visitors who contracted the virus abroad. The alarming wrinkle this year is that, once the virus is imported, it seems to be spreading to more people than before.

Outbreaks have occurred among home-schooled children who escaped the compulsory school vaccinations, and among children whose parents oppose vaccination, for philosophical and religious reasons or fear that the combined measles, mumps and rubella vaccine is dangerous. Many fear that the vaccines cause autism, a theory that has been thoroughly debunked by multiple studies and by authoritative medical organizations.

Israel, Switzerland, Austria, Italy and Britain are reporting sizable outbreaks of measles among populations that have refused vaccination. Although vaccination rates remain high in this country, some experts fear that they may be starting to drop. Because it is so contagious, measles is one of the first diseases to reappear when immunization coverage declines. If confidence in all vaccines were to drop precipitously, many diseases would re-emerge and cause far more harm than could possibly result from vaccination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the NY Time Aug 24 2008:</p>
<p>There has been an upsurge of measles cases in the United States, mostly because of parents’ misguided fears of vaccinations. The number is still relatively small — but climbing. In the first seven months of this year, 131 cases were reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than during the same period in any year since 1996. No deaths were reported, but at least 15 patients were hospitalized.</p>
<p>Most people have forgotten, but measles was once an uncontrolled scourge that infected three million to four million Americans annually. Victims typically suffered a rash, fever and diarrhea, but severe cases could lead to pneumonia or encephalitis. In bad epidemic years, some 48,000 Americans were hospitalized, 1,000 more were chronically disabled, and 400 to 500 died. </p>
<p>Then the development of effective vaccines and compulsory vaccination of schoolchildren drove the disease to the sidelines. Health authorities declared that measles had been eliminated from the United States in 2000. Only a few score cases have been reported annually in recent years, mostly imported from abroad.</p>
<p>Nearly all of the outbreaks this year were triggered by a mere 17 travelers or foreign visitors who contracted the virus abroad. The alarming wrinkle this year is that, once the virus is imported, it seems to be spreading to more people than before.</p>
<p>Outbreaks have occurred among home-schooled children who escaped the compulsory school vaccinations, and among children whose parents oppose vaccination, for philosophical and religious reasons or fear that the combined measles, mumps and rubella vaccine is dangerous. Many fear that the vaccines cause autism, a theory that has been thoroughly debunked by multiple studies and by authoritative medical organizations.</p>
<p>Israel, Switzerland, Austria, Italy and Britain are reporting sizable outbreaks of measles among populations that have refused vaccination. Although vaccination rates remain high in this country, some experts fear that they may be starting to drop. Because it is so contagious, measles is one of the first diseases to reappear when immunization coverage declines. If confidence in all vaccines were to drop precipitously, many diseases would re-emerge and cause far more harm than could possibly result from vaccination.</p>
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		<title>By: BloggerT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BloggerT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typhoid - In 1911 immunisation of US army troops with typhoid vaccine became compulsory. In World War 1, with a fighting force of approximately two million there were 1,529 cases of typhoid, with 169 deaths. In the Spanish-American War of 1898 with an unvaccinated fighting force of 108,000 there were 20,738 cases of typhoid, and 1,580 deaths.55

Neonatal tetanus - In China in 1994 approximately 10% of pregnant women were immunised against tetanus. Over 90,000 babies died from neonatal tetanus. In contrast in Sri Lanka in 1994 80% of pregnant women were immunised, and the disease declined to the stage where it was considered rare. In Bangladesh, where it is estimated that only 10% of women have access to a clean delivery, the incidence of neonatal tetanus has been cut from 41 per 1,000 live births to six per 1,000 live births as a result of a mass immunisation program.56

Epiglottitis - Is a potentially fatal condition occurring in young children caused by Haemophilus influezae (Hib). In Finland the incidence rate of acute epiglottitis in children aged 0-4 years fell from 7.6 to 0 cases per 100,000 following the introduction of Hib immunisation.57

Japanese Encephalitis - This acute neurological condition occurs predominantly in India, China, and Japan, and is associated with significant morbidity and mortality. The incidence of the condition has dropped markedly as a result of immunisation and mosquito control. Studies have shown the effectiveness of a two dose vaccine regimen to be over 90%.58,59

Polio - In the Netherlands in 1992-93, after 14 years with no endemic cases of polio there was an outbreak involving 71 persons. There were two deaths and 59 cases of paralysis. None of the patients had been vaccinated, most for religious reasons. No vaccinated person contracted the disease.60</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typhoid - In 1911 immunisation of US army troops with typhoid vaccine became compulsory. In World War 1, with a fighting force of approximately two million there were 1,529 cases of typhoid, with 169 deaths. In the Spanish-American War of 1898 with an unvaccinated fighting force of 108,000 there were 20,738 cases of typhoid, and 1,580 deaths.55</p>
<p>Neonatal tetanus - In China in 1994 approximately 10% of pregnant women were immunised against tetanus. Over 90,000 babies died from neonatal tetanus. In contrast in Sri Lanka in 1994 80% of pregnant women were immunised, and the disease declined to the stage where it was considered rare. In Bangladesh, where it is estimated that only 10% of women have access to a clean delivery, the incidence of neonatal tetanus has been cut from 41 per 1,000 live births to six per 1,000 live births as a result of a mass immunisation program.56</p>
<p>Epiglottitis - Is a potentially fatal condition occurring in young children caused by Haemophilus influezae (Hib). In Finland the incidence rate of acute epiglottitis in children aged 0-4 years fell from 7.6 to 0 cases per 100,000 following the introduction of Hib immunisation.57</p>
<p>Japanese Encephalitis - This acute neurological condition occurs predominantly in India, China, and Japan, and is associated with significant morbidity and mortality. The incidence of the condition has dropped markedly as a result of immunisation and mosquito control. Studies have shown the effectiveness of a two dose vaccine regimen to be over 90%.58,59</p>
<p>Polio - In the Netherlands in 1992-93, after 14 years with no endemic cases of polio there was an outbreak involving 71 persons. There were two deaths and 59 cases of paralysis. None of the patients had been vaccinated, most for religious reasons. No vaccinated person contracted the disease.60</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-364296</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again, you will just have to go through a search engine and look for T.I.R.L or FIRST FREEDOM THINK DOT COM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again, you will just have to go through a search engine and look for T.I.R.L or FIRST FREEDOM THINK DOT COM</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-364289</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Herd Rebel I don't know what took place but the e-mail link I gave for visiting the web site of those wishing to become 'Rights Savvy just didnt print, so I'll give it again.  

Knowledge is power, therefore an uninformed public is gullible and unarmed to effectively deal with critical issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Herd Rebel I don&#8217;t know what took place but the e-mail link I gave for visiting the web site of those wishing to become &#8216;Rights Savvy just didnt print, so I&#8217;ll give it again.  </p>
<p>Knowledge is power, therefore an uninformed public is gullible and unarmed to effectively deal with critical issues.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-364275</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Herd Rebel, it surely is a catch 22 situation, because here in Britain you can refuse to vaccinate your child but since it is required at child care centers and schools you'd have to go through a drawn out legal battle when Social Services get involved should you say, ' okay then, I'll just educate my child at home' when this decision should be without 'penalty'.

I return to Trinidad tomorrow and as promised I'll send that information showing it is mandatory in our country to have your child vaccinated.

The bigger picture is that our rights and freedoms are being continously encroached and its becoming exceedingly difficult to getting them ' respected'  Why?  Because Governments and the powers that be hold a re-defined premise as to the true meaning of a Republic and its role to provide protection of their citizens rights and freedoms.

Since any intelligent person should be 'Rights Savvy' I offer advance information on the origination of men's rights (and no, it was not derived from man) visit:  the organization is called T.I.R.L

So continue the good work of informing others for this may be their only medium of empowering themselves. I'll keep in touch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Herd Rebel, it surely is a catch 22 situation, because here in Britain you can refuse to vaccinate your child but since it is required at child care centers and schools you&#8217;d have to go through a drawn out legal battle when Social Services get involved should you say, &#8216; okay then, I&#8217;ll just educate my child at home&#8217; when this decision should be without &#8216;penalty&#8217;.</p>
<p>I return to Trinidad tomorrow and as promised I&#8217;ll send that information showing it is mandatory in our country to have your child vaccinated.</p>
<p>The bigger picture is that our rights and freedoms are being continously encroached and its becoming exceedingly difficult to getting them &#8216; respected&#8217;  Why?  Because Governments and the powers that be hold a re-defined premise as to the true meaning of a Republic and its role to provide protection of their citizens rights and freedoms.</p>
<p>Since any intelligent person should be &#8216;Rights Savvy&#8217; I offer advance information on the origination of men&#8217;s rights (and no, it was not derived from man) visit:  the organization is called T.I.R.L</p>
<p>So continue the good work of informing others for this may be their only medium of empowering themselves. I&#8217;ll keep in touch</p>
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		<title>By: Herd Rebel</title>
		<link>http://brainblogger.com/2008/06/30/vaccines-a-two-edged-sword/comment-page-2/#comment-361071</link>
		<dc:creator>Herd Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Evan, see below, I'm copying this entire message. I looked at some of these links and it appears it applies more to AUS, but from what I'm seeing, it's not mandatory for vaccinations.

Australia

http://www.avn.org.au/

No mandates in Australia  but can't find on Meryl's pages

INFO HERE       
http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/rights.html

Your right of refusal

You have a fundamental human AND common law right (common law is applicable in Britain and all former British colonies, including the U.S.) to be free to refuse any medical procedure. 

In Britain and all former British colonies other than the U.S. (including Australia, NZ and Canada), national Constitutions and state laws respect this right (though Queensland's do not make specific reference to it). This includes in relation to school and child care entry. Contrary to what many people believe, in respect to enrolment the statute laws (i.e. those passed by Parliament, which are themselves lower laws than the Constitution and common law) only require schools to ask for information on vaccination status, and even if you do not provide any records, the school still cannot refuse enrolment on that basis. If a school official tells you otherwise he/she is either ignorant or lying to you, or you misinterpreted his/her request. Education is compulsory. Medical procedures are definitely NOT. Please make other parents, too, aware that they have this freedom. Paragraph (7) of the following section of legislation explicitly protects your right in NSW: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/pha1991126/s42d.html .

(Relevant only to Australia:) You can also get the full childcare and maternity allowances if you submit a conscientious exemption form to Centrelink. Forms are available from Centrelink, Medicare, probably also from your doctor, or you can print one off from: http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/public/files/ma_conscientious_objection_form.pdf . An "immunisation" provider (doctor usually) is supposed to sign the form before you submit it, in order to record that he/she has gone through with you all the purported risks of not vaccinating. That's all the doctor's signature means, nothing else, as the law correctly views this decision as yours, not the doctor's. So stand up for the truth and your rights, and be strong and prepared in the face of obstructions and/or lies that you may be confronted with. Past examples include:


"Oh, we've run out of those forms" - Centrelink staff

"Your child has to be fully vaccinated to get this payment" - Centrelink staff, and

"I won't sign that form because that would mean I would be endorsing your decision and I could be sued" - a medical doctor who also then refused to have any discussion of the subject and proceeded to instruct a nurse who, before the mother knew what was happening, jabbed the child in the mother's arms. The mother had chosen not to continue vaccinating after she had observed that the child had fallen sick after each previous lot of vaccines. He had greatly improved once he received treatment from an alternative practitioner, but after this vaccine he quickly became sick again and was hospitalised three times. 

The Australian Federal Constitution protects the common law rights we have inherited from England (including those protected in the Magna Carta 1297, Bill of Rights 1688, Petition of Rights 1627, etc) and only gives power to governments to "provide", i.e. make available, medical services, not to enforce them. The nature of the Constitution is that "what (power) is not granted to the Parliament... is denied to it." "For the truth is the supreme, absolute and uncontrollable authority remains with the people." (Annotated Constitution of the Australian Commonwealth, Quick and Garran, pps 346 and 286 resp.)

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http://203.31.16.60/Resources/vaccination.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Evan, see below, I&#8217;m copying this entire message. I looked at some of these links and it appears it applies more to AUS, but from what I&#8217;m seeing, it&#8217;s not mandatory for vaccinations.</p>
<p>Australia</p>
<p><a href="http://www.avn.org.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.avn.org.au/</a></p>
<p>No mandates in Australia  but can&#8217;t find on Meryl&#8217;s pages</p>
<p>INFO HERE<br />
<a href="http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/rights.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/rights.html</a></p>
<p>Your right of refusal</p>
<p>You have a fundamental human AND common law right (common law is applicable in Britain and all former British colonies, including the U.S.) to be free to refuse any medical procedure. </p>
<p>In Britain and all former British colonies other than the U.S. (including Australia, NZ and Canada), national Constitutions and state laws respect this right (though Queensland&#8217;s do not make specific reference to it). This includes in relation to school and child care entry. Contrary to what many people believe, in respect to enrolment the statute laws (i.e. those passed by Parliament, which are themselves lower laws than the Constitution and common law) only require schools to ask for information on vaccination status, and even if you do not provide any records, the school still cannot refuse enrolment on that basis. If a school official tells you otherwise he/she is either ignorant or lying to you, or you misinterpreted his/her request. Education is compulsory. Medical procedures are definitely NOT. Please make other parents, too, aware that they have this freedom. Paragraph (7) of the following section of legislation explicitly protects your right in NSW: <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/pha1991126/s42d.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/pha1991126/s42d.html</a> .</p>
<p>(Relevant only to Australia:) You can also get the full childcare and maternity allowances if you submit a conscientious exemption form to Centrelink. Forms are available from Centrelink, Medicare, probably also from your doctor, or you can print one off from: <a href="http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/public/files/ma_conscientious_objection_form.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/public/files/ma_conscientious_objection_form.pdf</a> . An &#8220;immunisation&#8221; provider (doctor usually) is supposed to sign the form before you submit it, in order to record that he/she has gone through with you all the purported risks of not vaccinating. That&#8217;s all the doctor&#8217;s signature means, nothing else, as the law correctly views this decision as yours, not the doctor&#8217;s. So stand up for the truth and your rights, and be strong and prepared in the face of obstructions and/or lies that you may be confronted with. Past examples include:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, we&#8217;ve run out of those forms&#8221; - Centrelink staff</p>
<p>&#8220;Your child has to be fully vaccinated to get this payment&#8221; - Centrelink staff, and</p>
<p>&#8220;I won&#8217;t sign that form because that would mean I would be endorsing your decision and I could be sued&#8221; - a medical doctor who also then refused to have any discussion of the subject and proceeded to instruct a nurse who, before the mother knew what was happening, jabbed the child in the mother&#8217;s arms. The mother had chosen not to continue vaccinating after she had observed that the child had fallen sick after each previous lot of vaccines. He had greatly improved once he received treatment from an alternative practitioner, but after this vaccine he quickly became sick again and was hospitalised three times. </p>
<p>The Australian Federal Constitution protects the common law rights we have inherited from England (including those protected in the Magna Carta 1297, Bill of Rights 1688, Petition of Rights 1627, etc) and only gives power to governments to &#8220;provide&#8221;, i.e. make available, medical services, not to enforce them. The nature of the Constitution is that &#8220;what (power) is not granted to the Parliament&#8230; is denied to it.&#8221; &#8220;For the truth is the supreme, absolute and uncontrollable authority remains with the people.&#8221; (Annotated Constitution of the Australian Commonwealth, Quick and Garran, pps 346 and 286 resp.)</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  I have some friends in Australia and UK (I just threw UK in there) and none ever heard of such a thing.  I'll at least give them a heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  I have some friends in Australia and UK (I just threw UK in there) and none ever heard of such a thing.  I&#8217;ll at least give them a heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australia has made vaccination mandatory for any child to attend a child care centre.</description>
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		<description>I'll take your word for it re: "compulsory" - I've never heard of a country that mandates such requirements, however I suppose it depends on where about the "Carribean" you are. 
That said, the US's 50 states all have exemptions, though only 2 of them have medical only. 
Here in the US you actually have the health officials (ex, FDA) going after vitamins and supplements (etc.) in an attempt to shut down business's as more and more are turning to alternative methods and foregoing vaccine recommendations. 
A sick individual however is lucrative to the ecomony which is why I believe there's such a big push of mandatory vaccinations. There's been no law changes here regarding compulsory vaccinations but that's not to say that individuals/organizations haven't been and aren't trying.
They forget however this country is a republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take your word for it re: &#8220;compulsory&#8221; - I&#8217;ve never heard of a country that mandates such requirements, however I suppose it depends on where about the &#8220;Carribean&#8221; you are.<br />
That said, the US&#8217;s 50 states all have exemptions, though only 2 of them have medical only.<br />
Here in the US you actually have the health officials (ex, FDA) going after vitamins and supplements (etc.) in an attempt to shut down business&#8217;s as more and more are turning to alternative methods and foregoing vaccine recommendations.<br />
A sick individual however is lucrative to the ecomony which is why I believe there&#8217;s such a big push of mandatory vaccinations. There&#8217;s been no law changes here regarding compulsory vaccinations but that&#8217;s not to say that individuals/organizations haven&#8217;t been and aren&#8217;t trying.<br />
They forget however this country is a republic.</p>
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