I have been concerned by the news that so many Muslim doctors appear to espouse radical Islam. The realization that men trained to heal can murder innocent people is shocking to the Western mind.

Your analogy with the Catholic Church is apropos. However, at the roots of Catholicism are the spiritual values of love and service which Jesus preached. My study of Islam finds only a totalitarian poltical doctrine written by a psychopath. What else could you call a man who beheaded 600 Jews? None of this is critical of your work since you didn’t make the argument that Islam is in any way good for the West, or the East for that matter.

You are right about divorcing Islam from medicine. I don’t think it can be done. The logical conclusion for me is that Muslim doctors should not be included as part of the NHS billing system nor licensed in the West. People who think this is bigotted can ask themselves the question: How many Nazi doctors does the West need? Once they have the answer to that they can examine the Koran and the biography of Mohamed and come to their own conclusions about the similarities of Mein Kampf and the Koran.

Zealous Christians emulate Christ. They love God, love others, and spread the Gospel. Zealous Mulsims emulate Mohamed a murderous thief and rapist. I know who I want as a neighbour and a doctor.

People who love freedom must wake up and then stand up or we will lose in a generation what has taken 100 generations to build.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with the comment above. Especially with this part:

Zealous Christians emulate Christ. They love God, love others, and spread the Gospel. Zealous Mulsims emulate Mohamed a murderous thief and rapist. I know who I want as a neighbour and a doctor.

Zealous Christians follow, as they have always done, the diktat of their Church. They tend to be “pro-life”, against stem cell research, evolution (if we talk about evangelical confessions) and homosexuality. In the Middle Ages, they used to be intensely antisemitic - after all, Jews used to be considered responsible for the death of Jesus Christ.

If zealous Christians really followed Jesus, they would be less judgmental, more generous, and less attached to authority than they really are.

Also, it is constantly ignored that “radical” views of Islam are also a reaction to other “Western” views seen as descendants of a colonial past which is not far away. Being “radical” goes with being nationalistic most of the time - a bit like being Fascist/Nazi and Christian (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox…) used to be, and is, for many in Italy, Germany, Croatia, Ukraine, and so on.

People whose countries are constantly harassed by the West will empathize with their Muslim brothers, and feel that their religion is their only strength - as its rhetoric includes the vision of a prosperous, powerful, and independent Muslim world.

First off I want to thank you for your comment and the link to read your fine article, we would be pleased if you could author on our blog if you have the time.

You asked for a response to your article above and I wish to say that I concur with your assessment between the two religions within the time frame you stated. The difference between the two is apparently to me in such that the Catholic religion is one of love for all man kind as well as a love of God. Also the western culture has become educated and thus tolerant of all religions sadly including Islam due to the lack of knowledge of that ideology and a quest to become politically correct at any cost.

One would think that with education that Muslim doctors would be able to see how barbaric Islam is and that it could not be anything that a God as we know it would condone yet alone inspire a so called prophet to spread to his known world.

Our concern at The American Jingoist is that the western world and it’s governments have their collective heads in the sand hoping that it will go away instead of calling a spade for what it is, a spade. The politically correct attitude of the apologist academia and the propaganda that passes for truth in the main stream media, continues to hide from the people that there is a very real danger in trying to appease and tolerate this barbaric cult. Fundamental Islam is what we see manifested in the acts of terror showing Islam for what it is and it’s desire for world domination for the single purpose of enslaving the entire world and returning it to the barbaric age.

I must say that your article was well written and has value in attempting to explain why professional Muslims do what they do. I will post your article on our blog and should you wish to author on the blog just send me an email so I can send you an invitation to author on the blog.

Regards,
whois2811

Guy Macher,

What makes you any different than Muslims or Muhammed that you described?

You are just another hater, bigot and racist just like what you describes Muslims. Muslims are brainwashed by Mohemmed and the Quran and you are brainwashed by the Bible and Jesus. You guys are exactly samething at the different side of coin.

Jesus preached love and forgiveness for everyone. Even His enemies said this. They denied He was the Son of God but they did not say He was warlike, murderous, or given to plunder and pillage.

On the other hand, Mohamed is described by his official biographers as a warring, thieving, misogynist who personally beheaded 600 to 900 Jews in one afternoon. Mohamed was fooled by Satan to include Satanic verses in the Koran. The Koran also says that Mohamed (a killer) is the ideal man and should be exemplified by all his followers. Is my interpretation of the writings in error?

I do not hate Muslims, that’s not Christian doctrine. Hating Muslims would demean and belittle the sacrifice of Jesus. I pray for all Muslims to come to know Christ. I do, however, detest Islam which is a doctrine of hate and subjugation. But surely, your comparative study of the New Testament and the Koran revealed the same thing to you.

As far as being a racist, I was not aware that Islam was only meant for one race. What race would that be?

What makes me different than Mohamed? I don’t behead Jews. I aspire to Love God, Love Others and Spread the Gospel. Jesus tells me that lies, thievery, rape, and murder are wrong. That’s not the message Muslims get from the Koran.

But if I have misread the doctrine and biographies of Mohamed, (or the two ways you spell his name)please enlighten me.

In all honesty, who would you rather have as a neighbour. A man like Jesus? Or a man like Mohamed?

Another point: I use my name on my posts. Why do you use a pseudonym?

Dear Shaheen

Thank you for your comment on my related post on arabdemocracy.com

You raise very relevant points in your article which echo some of the conclusions in the original report. I am not a muslim myself but your analysis of the role of medical practioners extending beyond their technical abilities to a more pastoral one does not strike me as unique to Islam but common to most societies to different extents including western industrial society until not that long. At the end of the day medical school is competitive, attracts motivated (hopefully talented) individuals generally from privileged backgrounds. All these attributes makes them potential leaders, and some of them do actually decide to use that potential outside their chosen field.

On the issue of why they choose to support fundamentalist interpretations of Islam, that has been a trend that transcends classes, ethnicity and profession. Doctors cannot be expected to be immune to it by virtue of their profession. History shows us that they never have anyway.singling them out deviates us from the real problem at hand.

Joseph El-Khoury
co-editor
Arabdemocracy

An interesting topic would be the “Psychology of Extremism”. It appears that humans with an extremist tendency will gravitate to whatever culture or religion that is most likely to allow them to be extremist. A question that comes to mind is “Why do some believe that they most exhibit an extremist lifestyle?”. Is it a compulsive need to seek revenge, be different, or be famous? Why do some believe that only violence can lead to societal change? Is it related to instant gratification needs?

I don’t have the answers, but they are interesting questions.

Charles

EVERYBODY, IS PART OF A GROUP, THE ATHEIST, THE CHRISTIANS, THE MUSLIMS, THE KUU KLUX KLAN ETC… IF YOU DONT BELEIVE IN GOD THAN THATS YOUR BELIEF, YOUR CREED OR DOCTRINE THAT YOU BASE YOUR LIFE UPON, AND THERE ARE OTHERS JUST LIKE YOU, JUST LIKE THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD HAVE THERE OWN DOCTRINE. THE TRUTH IS ONE, BUT FALSEHOOD IS MANY, SO YOU CAN HAVE ALOT OF FALSE DOCTRINES, BUT THE TRUTH IS ONE. INSTEAD OF LISTNING TO THE MEDIA, AND ALL THERE LIES, TRY SEEKING THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF, AND DO NOT BE A BLIND FOLLOWER, AND TRUST ME YOU ARE FOLLOWING SOMETHING, EVERYBODY IS BUT NOT EVERYBODY IS FOLLOWING TRUTH AND JUST BECAUSE THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE FOLLOWING SOMETHING IT DOESNT MEAN ITS TRUTH…IF EVERYBODY WAS RIOTING AFTER A SPORTS GAME, WOULD YOU FOLLOW? THIS IS SINCERE ADVICE FOR ALL THOSE SPEAKING WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OR INSIGHT. AND FOR THOSE WHO WHO THINK THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM THEN DISREGARD THIS POST.

Great job you all!
We don’t have enough hatred going around. Thanks for your contribution.
Now let’s focus on exremist muslim janitors. Do not worry hatred will not end, even if we start on thoughts of “best of us”.

i am disgusted by the above comments. please, do your research before you make such offensive comments. muslims believe that Mohammed and Jesus were both messengers of God and preached the same peace and being good to your neighbours etc. Historical fact - Mohammed was a great neighbour and even his enemies entrusted him with their valuables when they went out of the city. if you actually pick up the Quran you will see that it has striking similarities to other religious texts. anyone with an open and intellegent mind would seek this information before making such baseless and offensive accusations.

i guess the above comments by other readers of this blog prove that there are religious extremists and people who can hate in every religion. all the rest of us normal people can do is try to give you a good shake and get you to open up your eyes and your minds to diversity. people are people, we are not born to hate. so stop hating.

Tolerance

Read the Hadiths about Mohamed. His biographers record his treatment of Jews. They say he beheaded them. Or did I misread? If Mohamed respected Jesus, would he kill Jews? Does anyone say Jesus killed people?

If I have misinterpreted the Koran or the Hadiths, prove it. If the Ayatollah Khamenei erred in his writings of permitted sexual acts involving infants and animals, please tell me. I am willing to learn. Perhaps 36 years of teaching physics and mathematics have caused my brain to shrink and I need your fresh brain to show me the error of my ways.

Are the reports of Arab suicide bombers simply made up? Was I dreaming when Muslims near my home town paraded joyfully on September 11th? Did the Arabs turn the Garden of Gaza back to desert, or are those reports lies, too?

Would you have tolerated Hitler? I’m glad my father, grandfather, father-in-law didn’t. My Jewish neighbour is also thankful they didn’t have that kind of tolerance. But perhaps she still misses her family and isn’t thinking straight. Perhaps she hates Hitler too much.

People are people. Very insightful. Which peolpe are dressing up 8 year-old girls in dynamite and detonating them? What is it that you see in your own family that is parallel to that? Do Christians go to heaven for killing non-Christians? I’m not being critical. I am just trying to learn tolerant and insightful.

The Koran verse you allude to, you know the one about Mohamed looking after his neighbour’s valuables, which verse it that? He couldn’t even be trusted with his daughter-in-law. He set fire to a man to find out where treasure was hidden. Sounds too rapacious to trust. And there’s that hadith about him beheading 600 Jews in an afternoon. I know some hadiths say 900, but that would be psychopathic, so I always quote the lower number.

I always write under my Christian and Family name. I don’t want to be controversial, just honest and tolerant, like you, whoever you are.

Made Jesus enlighten you! God bless!

This is ridiculous, people have so much hate and racism in their hearts. It’s a shame and very inhumane. Publishing an article about extremist Muslims, oh like we haven’t heard that before. Maybe you brainwashed people should pick up some scholarly literature about Islam and it’s teachings rather then memorizing what CNN has to say.

Mairiamah
Which of the Koran’s verses commanding Muslims to kill Jews and Christians are in error? Which of the hadiths are wrong? Name the suras which are wrong.

I never watch CNN.

You may call me Islamophobic but not racist. Is Islam for only one race? What race would that be? Aren’t Iranians, Caucasians? Do you assume I am not black? Or Amerind?

No apostrophe is used in the possessive third person neuter. Than is used in comparisons.

May Jesus Chirst, Son of God, enlighten you.

WWWWooooow Mr. Guy Macher, I have never come across such a person, filled with so much against Islam… You claim to follow Christianity but Jesus and Muhammed come from the same ancestry. It’s really sad to see how much hatred and anger you harbour against Muslims. I have heard about people like you existing in this world, but as a Muslim, this is the first time I have felt so much animosity against my religion

Nancy.

What have I said that is not true? I only used the Koran and the hadiths about Mohamed. If I have made an error please tell me where I went wrong.

I cannot believe that what I wrote is the most hateful thing you have heard about Islam. Did you not feel something on 9/11 or 7/7 or any time Muslim terrorists fire rockets into Gaza? Did you not feel something when a so-called honour killing takes place in the West?

Do you say that Jesus beheaded any one? or raped any one? or raised a sword against anyone?

The hadiths say Mohamed did these things. I am only repeating what Muslims say about Mohamed.

The “Jesus” in the Koran is not the Christian Jesus. We believe He is the Son of God and not a prophet of the moon god , Allah. We believe Jesus was crucified upon a cross and died and rose again to life.

Although the Koran says the Gospels of Jesus are true, it denies His Deity. The Gospels and the Old Testament are at least 500 years older than Islam. And the documents are the same now as when written. They have not been corrupted.

Please, check this out. Jesus wants you to be saved to live for Eternity in Heaven with Him.

Not all hadiths are precise. Many of them were created and cheated by anti-Islam. Are you sure that the Jews killing hadith is authentic?

I think I know what’s bother you Guy Macher. You think Mohamed is a killer and Jesus isn’t. Well guess what, you didn’t notice that both of their life time aren’t relatively equal. How long do you think Mohamed live? Well how long did Jesus live?

I’m sure if Jesus lived longer than he was, Jesus too would be involved in war. Because what!? Because Jesus is a prophet. That’s what prophets do. NOT TO KILL AND WAR. A prophet’s job is to solve all problems in this world, including war. How come a prophet will settle down all prob, if he even doesn’t know how to war? He must practice all aspect of life including warring.

War is not for revenge or for empire. War is to defend ourselves from the enemy. Maybe the Jews that get killed (as you claimed) were the army of Jews. So that’s what happened in a war. They don’t play poker or scratch each others back. They kill.

Study Islam by heart, not by hate. I guess, maybe you’re the friend of Geert Wilders. That racist thing.

My last post semed to have evaporated into the ether.

The hadith is well known. http://www.derafsh-kaviyani.com/english/quraiza.html

I am surprised you donot know of it. Likewise, I know that Mohamed was poisoned by a servant girl at age 61. Jesus died ont he Cross at 33 and was resurrected on the third day and lives at the right hand of God.

The Koran says Jesus is Holy, and born of a virgin. It says Jesus performed miracles. The Koran also tells us that Mohamed was a sinner and didn’t perform miracles. So calling Jesus a potential killer is not Islamic!

If the hadith is wrong, you must confront the Ayatollah Khameini–he’s sort of like the pope of Muslims.

The word racist is wrong. Islam is for all people, so how is being critical of Islam racist? Unless you mean pan-racist– against all races! That’s a silly idea.

Please call me Islamophobe, not in the medical sense, but in the sense that I am 100% against the satanic tyrannical doctrine. But I am also 100% against Nazi-ism and communism and dictators in general, so I am not just picking on Islam. Perhaps call me a tyrannophobe!

Paul, I can tell I must turn this over to Jesus, to enlighten you. You must bear the name of the great Christian saint for a reason! God bless.

Hey everyone,

the article reflects the opinion of the writer and who ever agrees to it.

i am a pediatrician , and i thought that i’d find something useful other than the quarrel present over here..
I don’t agree with some points , especially that i have worked with Muslim doctors in their country and there was nothing as preaching or enforcing their ideas to any patient..

yes there are that are deviants who exist , as there are among Christians as well as all the other existing religions, so it isn’t fair to generalize…

ease it down! there are more medical problems to worry about!

Chill!

Guy Macher, why do you waste your time on these lowly brained fools?

Chris

I do it for entertainment. But, you’re right, time to stop wasting time on these practioners of takiyya.

God bless