Comments on: The Anti-Psychiatry Movement /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/ Health and Science Blog Covering Brain Topics Sat, 29 Dec 2018 04:00:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.3 By: Jason /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-606762 Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:11:44 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-606762 I could list my own set of questions as the author of the article does such as

(1)At what degree is psychiatry related to physical illness? At some point, for many people, when you have cancer, no amount of medication will alter the cancer’s path to death. At what point do psychiatric medications no longer help people or hinder them? Should they be taken for long periods of time as psychiatrists suggest? Have psychiatrists as a group abandoned free thinking in regards to medication as treatment for all who enter the state hospital (which inevitably happens for those commited)?

(2) Why do psychiatric medications affect things such as the driving ability of people, cause sleepiness, etc., if they are touted as a cure, or have we forgotten about side effects of medications?

(3) Why do people who have been court ordered to take medication have to take medication for the rest of their life? If anybody can reasonably answer this question, you’ll have silenced all critics.

(4) Why does the psychiatric organisations feel the need to defend themselves if the doctors had such good relationships with their patients to discuss these things, or is discussion not allowed with a psychiatrist (if you’re court ordered discussion will only bring down non-compliance).

Thank you for your time in reading my questions. I do not in any way wish to prevent somebody who on their own free will wishes to seek help from psychiatrists or doctors, but only wish to point out inconsistencies and glaring untruths promelgated by the psychiatric industry.

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By: The Best Anti-Psych Post | Validate Your Life : Productivity & Minimalism, Executive Coaching, NLP Sherlock, and Geekoid Tech /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-605591 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:12:46 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-605591 […] is more relevant. Finally, this is the epicenter, the culminating piece to this anti-psych post: Psychiatry: Industry of Death YES! I’m so happy about this. I’m so happy to see people who viciously hate psychiatry […]

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By: Mercedes /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-605441 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:32:32 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-605441 I’ve been reading through some of these comments…

And I’d honestly love to know if these people that are throwing out treatment methods from this “evil field” have ever actually worked with mentally ill people. If they’ve ever actually had success with their methods of treatment with people that are severely ill. I know that several of you have asked these questions, and no one has really answered.

I am mentally ill. It ruined my life and caused me to almost successfully kill myself 3 times (I was in respiratory and cardiac arrest each time). I have GREAT difficulty controlling my emotions. I black out and lose time, which my brain has been tested for every single physical cause for the blackouts (at the suggestion of my psychiatrist) and no physical cause was found. My psychiatrist suggested DBT and a variety of other intensive treatments for me, including temporary medication. Though I’ve been working at it for 3 years, I am slowly getting better. Hell, I’m in a much better place than 6 months ago. Because PSYCHIATRY saved my life. I am no longer on meds, as most psychiatrists in my area only believe in stabilization meds, which work.

I find it humorous no one can produce actual results for these scientology treatments for “mental trauma”. Is this because no positive results exist?

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By: Alonzo Landolfi /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-602109 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:18:26 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-602109 You made some good points there. I did a search on the subject matter and found most people will consent with your blog.

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By: Dona /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-598321 Mon, 29 Mar 2010 04:22:36 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-598321 As a mature female, who had 1,Great insurance, 2, low thyroid & lots of stress, 3, Was a stay at home for which many consider a non person of no value, 4, an episode of weirdness due to XANAX, prescribed for a spastic colon,
5, a bad marriage, 6, lack of spiritual foundation, 7, mercury and dental caps, I was doomed to fit the witch crafty specs, in the bible of the psychiatric industry, the DSM, which plans to label, text messaging, temper tantrums, and such as mental illness for the SOLE reason, of then being able to bill for it.

I lost much, including, my marriage, my home, but worse was the loss of my children, now added my grandchildren and all normal life experience and expectations, in exchange for the trust in a system that is all to often just a matter of economics. But as I have have made a full and complete recovery from the effects of the toxic drugs,I do see the eugenics and destruction of the soul, the person, and the destruction of the family unit.. I therefore, as I could not find support from anyone, including my mate, my shrink, the system, nor the law, chose to heal within, look at the truth and now represent CCHR.
and please hear this; *** our first contact with the world, is within the family, and there fore of vital importance to have a very strong family unit. Respect for individualism, and love, changing the “herd” mentality that exist in our society ,and loosing the tyranny of normalcy. And learning our mind/body/spirit,will end this choke hold,of psychiatry who are MD s and major in Psychiatry and as one said recently, stated “that next to God they were it.”
No one is infallible, no one is all bad or all good, we are on this planet to love and be loved and when we are not educated in emotional values we flounder, then it is allowable to have a professional “fix” us.
Given the right elements it is within each of us. to heal ourselves, without drastic intervention of deadly medications, which change our persona to all too often, angry, depressed, hopeless, bound, individuals. That my friends is a living nightmare and chemical straight jacket.
As I speak to others it comes to the foundation, Mothers and Fathers, from the very first moments the bonding, the words, the feelings of being less than, not enough, and then going to school where fellow students AND teachers can be cruel.
Some just have extremely sensitive natures, I did. I now know how to deal with that, but being lumped into a “cookie cutter” world, and have the illness come as the drugs are churned out, and imprinted deeply on our psyche. that we are not enough, not “normal” Who sets those measures?
Well,, with the grace of time, a resistance to lose anymore of my life, or to die early as a result of these many toxic drugs in my body, I chose to heal, and that took work, and a deep love and respect for myself. after much introspection, and forgiveness.
Now I share that with others, though my now adult children think as they were told long ago that I had a choice, and abandoned them, the truth will be revealed. And as pain and anger abates, love will be born again. No, nothing can give me those years back, but to do my part to help others as they wake to the sham, the non scientific basis of psychiatry, well I don’t care who leads the charge, I am a soldier in this war for sanity.

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By: The Best Anti-Psych Post | Validate Your Life /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-549954 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:11:17 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-549954 […] is more relevant. Finally, this is the epicenter, the culminating piece to this anti-psych post: Psychiatry: Industry of Death YES! I’m so happy about this. I’m so happy to see people who viciously hate psychiatry […]

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By: jonathan /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-548550 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:59:26 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-548550 This Scientology is an awful film, giving no balanced account of anything. I worked in Psychiatric Nursing and before I did I was strongly “anti-psychiatry”. It didn’t take long to realise that in some/many cases medication is better than the torment that some patients endure. It is hard to realise what a Mental institution would have been like before medication.; manic patients, for example, would wind up with a whirlwind agitation and many would die when their hearts burst. True many of the early medications such as chloropromazine were what they said – major tranquilisers and left the patients in a stupor. However the more refined and targeted anti psychotics tend to have less of the chermical cosh about them and enable the patient to function. in a more reasonable way. Some have argued that it is easy to mimic psychiatric symptoms. I almost guarantee that you wont last the medication regime if your brain cannot absorb it.
I am not however sold on medication, especially amongst the anxiety states and depression, where relaxation, exercise and a clear look at ones life style are perhaps more important.
If you think that mental illness, -the psychoses are a Myth – then you only need to listen to a patient in the throes of delusional thinking, where some bright intelligent person has lost all capacity to sort anything out. A bit like the scientology film.

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By: http://www.kojj.com /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-535176 Fri, 15 May 2009 09:08:41 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-535176 The Anti-Psychiatry Movement…

The psychiatric profession is under attack by the Church of Scientology. The Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a Scientology advocacy group, released an intense “documentary” called “Psychiatry: An Industry of Death” in 2006….

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By: Ruth Henriquez Lyon /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-534833 Thu, 14 May 2009 20:42:34 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-534833 I don’t know much about scientology, except that it seems like a cult. What I will say is that their film-making technique is extremely propagandist, in an overbearing way, which greatly detracts from their message. That being said, I do believe psychiatrists over-prescribe drugs, and many physicians (not just psychiatrists) have cozy relationships with big pharmaceutical companies which interfere with their objectivity when prescribing meds. As a culture we really need to start talking about this. But let’s be reasonable. Scare-mongering videos with horror-movie type background music are not a good place to start.

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By: Kevin Owen /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-508980 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:03:39 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-508980 Rach Wrote: “We’re doing the best we can with what we know and trying to learn more. Just because we don’t have all the answers doesn’t mean there aren’t any.”

Let us know when you have something worth tupence?

In the year 25, 25, if man is still alive???

Psychiatry: No Cures No Science [4 mins]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHu7Ik36128
Psychiatrists openly admitting at the 2006 APA convention
that they have no scientific tests to prove mental illness
and have no cures for these unproven mental illnesses

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By: Rach /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-508706 Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:46:06 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-508706 Okay…. I do believe a person is more than a lump of meat, but it seems like some of you don’t understand that the brain is a physical organ of the body that has a job to do and can be damaged or malfunction just like any other organ. We are groping in a lot of cases with brain health because the science behind it is not as advanced as the science behind, say, liver function. Why is that? Probably because it is more complicated and because there has been a stigma associated with having a malfunction of the brain. People have seen it as a moral or spiritual problem and this has slowed the science. Right now we’re doing things that will be looked on by future generations the way we look at cocaine for teething and blood letting to get rid of bad humors. We’re doing the best we can with what we know and trying to learn more. Just because we don’t have all the answers doesn’t mean there aren’t any.

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By: Anonymous /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-476764 Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:20:34 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-476764 Mom Blogs – Blogs for Moms…

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By: Kevin Owen /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-476331 Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:01:46 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-476331 Fitness Wrote Do not mix up science and religion. Each has its own ways to proceed.

Thats the reason neither found any real answers to man’s problems

Religion without Science is Blind
Science without Religion is Lame
Investigate Religion [Soul and Mind] with Science, DELETE ALL SUPERSTITION,
and you have Dianetics and Scientology

Their materials, researched and capped by a quarter of a century of original search by L.Ron Hubbard, have bought the humanities, so long outdistanced by the “exact sciences” into a state of equality, if not superiority,to physics, chemistry and mathematics.

Mr Hubbard, an American, studied nuclear physics at George Washington
University in Washington, DC, before he started his studies about
the mind, spirit and life. This explains the mathematical precision of the Scientology Religion.

What has been attempted by a thousand universities and foundations, at a cost of billions has been completed quietly here.

Psychosomatic Healing
http://www.psychosomatic-healing.co.nz/index.html

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By: Mariam Khmaladze /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-423705 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:26:18 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-423705 yea, fair enouh, but i personally despise the manner of the dvd, i cant watch it and and not wanna puke, iknow its not the content, but for me, science and religion shouldnt need to mix, because they have different functions and are for diff. people. If folks have issues with practising phsychiatrists there ARE rational and a tiny bit more DIGNIFIED way of showing it?!!

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By: Gabriele /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-423184 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:08:12 +0000 /2007/02/24/roundtable-the-anti-psychiatry-movement/#comment-423184 I am a psychology student at the second year of the first degree in Psy. Sciences. I ran into this DvD during one of the last year feasts in my city, when some people were shouting out something about psychology and psychiatry. I stopped and began to listen to what they were saying and, after I understood what was all about, I pretended to be a Neuroscience student (like i actually hope to become early) and started talking to those people, until they gave me the DvD for free.
After having watched the DvD for its entire length I started making some question around about its contents; from the answer i got, it seems there is something true in it but a more knowledge about the psychiatry history, purposes and methods is likely to be obtained before criticize.
Some of the professors whose classes I attend say it is another example of the well-known american fanaticism, even if it could be a good method to keep our minds critique. Keep in mind american pharmaceuticals industry is a business not to underestimate: in my of-little-importance opinion, some of the critics in the dvd are well based (I am thinking about ADHD disorder and the way the requirements for diagnosis are formulated and obtained..).

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